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    #16
    Hi Peter,
    Thanks for your help.

    Originally posted by peterholden View Post
    Hi Gill
    A few things you need to understand
    The vehicle is either a 1.9 DW8 or a HDI, it cannot be both.
    It's a Berlingo 1.9L 800TD HDI

    Cheers

    Gill T

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      #17
      Hi Gill
      I am sorry to be pedantic but it cannot be a 1.9L TD HDi

      There is no such vehicle.

      It is either a 1.9 or an HDi. (Citroen don't talk about TDs in Berlingos)

      If it is HDi it could be either 2L or 1.6L

      At least you have confirmed that it is an 800 version, this means that it is based on a cut down van with the higher capacity rear axle which is good news.

      You need to know the correct engine specs for servicing etc and to make sure that it is described correctly for insurance.

      If you go to an online parts supplier web site such as Eurocarparts an put your reg in to the vehicle box it should come back with the specs of the basic van.

      Peter


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        #18
        Apologies: that's what comes up if you put the reg number in any of the many internet 'car finder' sites. I'll check the log book tonight and get back to you.

        Cheers
        Gill T.

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          #19
          HI Gill So 60 psi does seem high . as I said Pats replace of the tyres did help when Commercial rated tyres were fitted . a good tyre fitter will know the best to fit and what tyre pressure to use.... Good Luck this post was via grahams post from Ant .
          There are various different pressures posted on vehicles that can easily confuse, I've had some Berlingos with Relay tyre pressures listed on the door shut!

          Here is what I put in the tyres of the Romahome range when servicing them.
          C15 - 40, 45 psi
          Old Berlingos 800kg Chassis - 43, 54. psi
          Old Berlingos 600kg Chassis - 40, 50. psi
          New Berlingo ( R20 and R25) - 35, 46. psi
          Dimensions/R30 - 55, 55. psi ( listed to have 58 all round but I find they bounce at that pressure)
          R40 - 50, 54 psi

          You need to check which Berlingo you have ( 800 or 600 kg ) on your log book and that your tyres are reinforced extra load or commercially rated and able to take the pressures listed.
          BuzznDave

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            #20
            Originally posted by gterr View Post
            Thanks, hobo

            Anyone know what is fitted as standard as part of the Nu Vuture Surf conversion on a 2007 Berlingo 1.9L 800TD HDI?
            Looking at the Surf when stationary, it sits square, with the rear not obviously lower the the front. There is, however, one heck of a downward bounce if anyone gets in the back without the steadies lowered.
            And (please excuse my ignorance), I'd be looking at getting spring assisters just for the rear, not also the front?
            Any use thinking about bigger wheels?

            Cheer
            Gill T
            I don't suppose this helps, but all the Berlingo cars and vans that I see about seem to sit nose down. Also, Allen (forum member) has a Nu Venture, albeit on a different base vehicle, and that too seems to sit nose down.

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              #21
              gterr to recap you have tyres with a "C" suffix - so they are correct commercial tyres NuSurf or a good tyre fitter should be able to tell you the correct pressure - even when empty a motorhome is "loaded" for the chassis / tyre purposes.
              Personally I would think that adding coil spring type, spring assisters will probably be your solution. Fitting spring assisters to the Daihatsu rear springs totally transformed the handling and ride!
              Jon

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                #22
                Hi peterholden

                The V5 states that I have Citroen Berlingo 800TD HDI LX
                Body Type MOTORCARAVAN
                Date of first reg: 06/03/2007
                2-AXLE-RIGID BODY
                Vehicle Category N1
                1864 KG GROSS
                LGV
                HEAVY OIL
                1997 CC

                Gill T

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                  #23
                  Hi Gill
                  In another role I have dealings with DVLA and what is written on a V5 is very often inaccurate and the TD shouldn't be there but I can tell you that the base vehicle is a Berlingo 800kg van with the 2L HDi engine. Good news, it is one of the best engines and it is the higher rating
                  Peter

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                    #24
                    Thanks all,

                    Motorhome will be off to local garage (which does commercial/lorries as well as 'ordinary cars' and can cope with motorhomes no bother) soon for a look-see and to order in some spring assisters. I'll get the axle weights done too.

                    I'm in two minds about the tyre pressures. The instruction manual I got from Nu Venture said to inflate the tyres to the pressures shown on the door label - which is approx 39 PSI laden. This is some way short of other recommendations here, and very much lower than the 60 PSI all-round they were at when I picked up the motorhome.

                    I was on the mainland today (Inverness) for a spot of retail therapy, which included purchases from Halfords: Fenwicks caravan cleaners, and something to sterilise the onboard water tank. Pretty much all set for the season now.

                    Cheers
                    Gill T

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                      #25
                      Hi Gill
                      NuVenture forgot to remove the Citroen van tyre sticker and replace it with their own.

                      Peter

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                        #26
                        underneath the camper is an 800d berlingo van regardless of what it looks like now my understanding is the tyre pressures are set by the van maker and the tyres are commercial tyres

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                          #27
                          Thanks Kyran very good post .A lot of small vans that become campers have ordinary tyres fitted not Commercial ones . I had a very interesting talk with my ATS tyre specialist . have a chat with one note the size etc on the tyre even by phone .ATS web page say that motor home and caravan and trailers have different tyres according to there weight.. When at work we got some new vans . they had ordinary tyres on them and we had to all go in for a new set due to the load we would be carrying. we all have our own opinion . I have a neighbour a taxi driver he uses S/H tyres .My pod tyre valve failed the tyre was 2 years old before it went on the pod . when new . Food for thought ?
                          BuzznDave

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by peterholden View Post
                            Hi Gill
                            NuVenture forgot to remove the Citroen van tyre sticker and replace it with their own.

                            Peter

                            I don't think so, peterholden . I got in touch with Deborah at Nu Venture before we collected the camper last August, to ask about tyres and this was her reply:
                            You will not require a new set of tyres as we do not exceed the weight of the desired base vehicle. The original tyre size etc will be sufficient.
                            I got another email from her yesterday to confirm that the Surf has a torsion bar, and that they do not routinely fit spring assisters, but I can fit them if I like. She advised me to check first that the torsion bar hasn't failed.

                            And just a heads-up to anyone with a NU Surf: Deborah comments:
                            The NU Surf is built on heavy duty springs so anything on the latest shape Berlingo would be a different ride and clearance feel.


                            Cheers,
                            ​​​​​​​Gill T

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                              #29
                              I wonder how much a Nu Venture weighs, perhaps you should take it to a weighbridge.

                              We have had a year 2007 Romahome Outlook from new (over 12 years now). (We have also had Berlingo cars for almost 20 years) It came built on the 765Kg platform cab with spring assisters fitted by Romahome and a Romahome sticker with tyre pressures inside the drivers door gap and they are as stated above by Ant with the rear tyres at 54psi (though we do run our back ones at 60). I think if the torsion bar had failed you would be having serious trouble. You could do with someone who knows about things having a proper look for you. If the tyres are not hard enough and the suspension is too soft you will get a lot of pitching (and worn tyres) on UK roads and a lot of swaying on the motorway. We can and do ddrive our Romahome at 70mph on the motorway with no problems.

                              Dont forget if you take it to a weighbridge you need all your gear on board, a full fuel tank and a full water tank, driver and passenger. You need to know what it weighs fully loaded and the distribution so ask for the front and rear axles to be weighed sperately then an overall weight.

                              Did you get a NuVenture handbook? If it is like the Romahome one it will have all the weights in it.

                              Peter

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                                #30
                                Hi peterholden ,

                                Yes, the Surf is going into the garage where they will do the axle weights separately. I do have the Nu Venture handbook with the weights in it too. The garage can have a good look underneath.

                                Cheers
                                Gill

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