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    Considering buying THIS Romahome - advice sought please

    I'm inching my way towards becoming a proud Romahome owner and have seen the almost perfect model available at a dealer who has also offered a fair trade-in on my Kangoo Roo. But, the van is due to be delivered to another dealer on Monday so I have to make a quick decision, ie by tomorrow.

    The van is a 2006 1.9HDi Outlook SX with pullman seating, 1 owner, FSH and 15k miles - so quite desirable. Not being too familiar with them, I have a couple of queries and hope the experts here may be able to advise, please.....

    1. I'm curious about the plumbing arrangments. There is a large plastic water tank of about 20 litre capacity in the locker on the left - the position of the table in the pullman layout. It's not connected to anything. Beneath the opposite locker on the right is a 9l jerrican with a red hose through the neck and what looks like putty. On my cursory glance, I didn't spot a submersible pump but had assumed Romahomes probably used a larger external water pump. Also, there was no obvious means of filling it.

    Q: What is the usual arrangement?


    2. The van was advertised as having heating but I couldn't see any. The dealer, which specialises in large caravans/motorhomes, agreed to install an Eberspacher diesel heater but admitted they didn't know anything about them and had never previously fitted one.

    Q: How easy is it to do a retro-fit on one of these?


    3. I'm completely unfamiliar with Zig units and the Romahome power system (my Roo has a leisure battery and I run appliances from it by attaching directly with crocodile clips...). As far as I can see, the RH doesn't have a leisure battery - but I could be totally wrong. It looks as though there was a battery box fitted behind the front seats but this has been removed. Also, I couldn't see any means for venting it.

    Q: Do Romahomes have a leisure battery fitted as standard and where are they normally located?

    Q: Do they have a split charger, or do they charge in a different way?

    Q: Does the Zig unit relate to the leisure battery or the engine battery? Do the lights, fridge, water pump (or submersible pump..?) run from the engine battery or the leisure battery?

    I've attached photos below:


    The empty water tank - not connected to anything!


    The jerrican (and possible submersible pump) with no obvious means of filling


    Should there be a leisure battery and should it be behind the front seats??

    I hope someone will be able to help. I really like this vehicle and it has everything I've been looking for (apart from air-con) but not being familiar with the specifics of Romahomes I want to make my decision based on as much information as I can muster.

    The dealer is not familiar with Romahomes - it was taken as a part-exchange, is possibly under-priced and I could see he 'wanted rid' because it doesn't compliment the rest of their range (just as my Roo wouldn't either!) and hence the arrangement to shunt it to another dealer on Monday.

    Thank You.
    Last edited by karenw; 20-11-2010, 12:17.

    #2
    Hi found you a couple of numbers for Romahome on the IOM:

    Telephone
    01983 292451

    Fax
    01983 290266

    they should be able to answer any questions seeing as you're in a rush! I found one on Ebay as well, it has the same arrangements so far as I can see.

    It looks really nice, good luck!

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      #3
      Originally posted by karenw View Post
      I'm inching my way towards becoming a proud Romahome owner and have seen the almost perfect model available at a dealer who has also offered a fair trade-in on my Kangoo Roo. But, the van is due to be delivered to another dealer on Monday so I have to make a quick decision, ie by tomorrow.

      The van is a 2006 1.9HDi Outlook SX with pullman seating, 1 owner, FSH and 15k miles - so quite desirable. Not being too familiar with them, I have a couple of queries and hope the experts here may be able to advise, please.....

      1. I'm curious about the plumbing arrangments. There is a large plastic water tank of about 20 litre capacity in the locker on the left - the position of the table in the pullman layout. It's not connected to anything. Beneath the opposite locker on the right is a 9l jerrican with a red hose through the neck and what looks like putty. On my cursory glance, I didn't spot a submersible pump but had assumed Romahomes probably used a larger external water pump. Also, there was no obvious means of filling it.

      Q: What is the usual arrangement?


      2. The van was advertised as having heating but I couldn't see any. The dealer, which specialises in large caravans/motorhomes, agreed to install an Eberspacher diesel heater but admitted they didn't know anything about them and had never previously fitted one.

      Q: How easy is it to do a retro-fit on one of these?


      3. I'm completely unfamiliar with Zig units and the Romahome power system (my Roo has a leisure battery and I run appliances from it by attaching directly with crocodile clips...). As far as I can see, the RH doesn't have a leisure battery - but I could be totally wrong. It looks as though there was a battery box fitted behind the front seats but this has been removed. Also, I couldn't see any means for venting it.

      Q: Do Romahomes have a leisure battery fitted as standard and where are they normally located?

      Q: Do they have a split charger, or do they charge in a different way?

      Q: Does the Zig unit relate to the leisure battery or the engine battery? Do the lights, fridge, water pump (or submersible pump..?) run from the engine battery or the leisure battery?

      I've attached photos below:



      I hope someone will be able to help. I really like this vehicle and it has everything I've been looking for (apart from air-con) but not being familiar with the specifics of Romahomes I want to make my decision based on as much information as I can muster.

      The dealer is not familiar with Romahomes - it was taken as a part-exchange, is possibly under-priced and I could see he 'wanted rid' because it doesn't compliment the rest of their range (just as my Roo wouldn't either!) and hence the arrangement to shunt it to another dealer on Monday.

      Thank You.
      Karen
      Telephone Ant at Avon motor caravans 01275 472277.
      Quickly now,and bear in mind the dealer may be "pushing" you.
      Ask Ant about price etc ---today

      Ian
      Young men sow wild oats.Old men grow sage.

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        #4
        We have a Romahome Outlook with Pullman option, it is 2007 vintage but with the earlier engine (although this does not affect the questions you are asking). The larger water tank should be where the small container is connected to the outside filler behind the drivers door. The space where the larger tank is now is where your legs and feet go when using the table, after that panel has been removed of course. Our leisure battery is under the passenger seat. We have an eberspacher heater which provides our heating and hot water. we don't use it often but at this time of year when not on electricity it is a godsend. Our previous Romahome had gas heating but with only a small gas bottle we prefer diesel.

        Did you get a manual with it - if not I think that you can buy one from Romahome, it explains everything

        peter

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          #5
          Thanks all for the responses - I knew you'd have more idea than the dealer with this unwanted Romahome that they're clueless about!

          I've spoken to a very helpful Romahome chap who confirmed the leisure battery location and split-charger - and thanks also to Pete for explaining the water tank arrangements which now make sense. The jerrican and soft putty had me very puzzled!

          I'm not happy that the garage are rushing me to make a decision having only viewed it last night. The price is fair (under-priced) but fitting a heater has to be part of the deal: I need to speak with an Eberspacher or Webasto authorised fitter on Monday because I'd prefer they do the work rather than a clueless dealer who had to refer google to see what it was! When they realise the cost involved for a retro-fit, I think they may withdraw this offer hence I need to be certain of all my facts before I let my Roo go or accept the trade-in value offered.

          I hesitated about contacting Ant. I'm apprehensive about imposing on his goodwill when I'm not actually one of his customers. I've checked the Avon Motors website for months but he hasn't yet had available a van of the spec I'm looking for within my price bracket - but, having seen how helpful he is, he is the dealer I would have every confidence in buying from.

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            #6
            If it was me I would ring all the dealers listed on the Romahome website (starting with Avon) and let them know what I was looking for as they may have something coming in and not yet listed.

            I would have lets say "a bad feeling" regarding your present consideration.

            Geoff.

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              #7
              These people are Eberspacher agents and have a good reputation locally

              http://www.ribblesdaleauto.co.uk

              They are based in Preston, Lancashire.

              A motorhome dealer is not necessarily the best suited for fitting Eberspacher, but Auto Electricians who deal with HGVs are used to Eberspachers because they are fitted in most trucks with sleeper cabs. A lot of Mercedes Sprinter vans, minibuses and ambulances also have them fitted.

              Sorting the water tank out and putting the leisure battery back under the passenger seat should be minor jobs but the heater ought to be fitted by someone who really knows.

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                #8
                Karen- any news?

                Reading recently on here about how the Eberspacer can lock up, I think I'd go for a Webasto!

                Actually, do you need an expensive heater at all? I would get quotes so that they can reduce the price by that, but IMHO I wouldn't fit a heater retro. There are some very good EHU plug in heaters, and also some really good non-EHU heaters about...

                Mind you, you're talking here to someone who decided to put a manual gravity pump instead of 12v in the caravan! I always think the less complicated you can make things, the better. Less to go wrong.

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                  #9
                  Thanks for the continuing advice.

                  I've taken on board the advice given and especially re the heater installation (I had previously been considering installing one in a car adaptation but it's impractical and requires cutting too many holes thereby risking the future resale potential of the vehicle).

                  I've also now confirmed my thoughts that the van is under-priced by about £3,000.

                  I have drafted an email to the dealer the gist of which is that I'm agreeing to the purchase price and trade-in value offered (which is actually more than I paid for the Roo 4 years ago - ssssshhhh!!) but stipulating that I want the heater, either Eberspacher or Webasto to be fitted by an authorised agent and I've traced a Webasto fitter not too far from the dealer. My concern with the dealer fitting it is they've never seen one and could do a rushed and botched job and if there were any future warranty claims, I foresee a prolonged battle between the manufacturer and dealer, particularly if it was not fitted competently. Amongst a few other observations, my email will also include a clause to the effect that the fitting will be subject to inspection and must be to my satisfaction. (Of course, I could arrange the fitting myself once I've purchased the van with a discounted allowed for this - but just incase there are any hitches or it's not possible to fit the heater, I want the dealer to take responsibility before I part with any ££ to ensure that I am buying the van with the heater installed, operational and with a valid manufacturer's warranty!)

                  I've obtained an Eberspacher fitting quote from Romahome and will obtain a Webasto quote tomorrow (closed for the weekend now). The cost is going to be about £1,300 to supply and fit and I'm fairly certain the dealer will back out of the agreement when they realise this - but by the time I've got all my facts and costs together, the van may well be on its way to the other dealer anyway (if what I was told is true).

                  I've done a lot of research over the weekend to ensure I'm not being rushed into a purchase I might regret and these delays might cause me to miss out on this one, but I don't think getting background info and advice is wasted and I'll be in a more knowledgable position should a future similar bargain become available.

                  JayJay - I rarely use campsites, I occasionally use CLs (much preferred - they're quieter and more secluded) but mostly I wild-camp so have no access to a hook-up. I also combine trips with canoeing when I can get quite cold and wet so the heater has become an essential for winter use - and in the locations we visit there are no sites or CLs available in the winter.

                  I smiled at your tale of the 12v pump and I couldn't agree more about keeping things simple. This is exactly what I've done with the Roo - including replacing the 12v tap and submersible pump with a completely manual tap. But... I do love these little Romahomes. If there is an alternative to a retro-fit heater or EHU, then I'd love to find it. I've tried the portable gas heaters which fill the van with choking fumes and drench it in condensation and have even run the gas hob - but this has a similar result. I've looked at Propane gas heater installations and even petrol but discounted them all due to expense and/or fire risk.

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                    #10
                    Now I remember you - and a tale about being frozen solid one morning wild camping in your Roo... yep, go for the heater!

                    All sounds good to me, go for it! Fingers crossed!

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                      #11
                      That's the one: a night at -14 deg in February/March when I nearly missed the Severn Bore because the de-icer was freezing faster than I could scrape the thick ice off the inside of the windows!!

                      Yes - a heater is needed!!!!

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                        #12
                        I suspect given the dealers are not used to motorhomes it might be best to negiotiate a sum of money to fit a heater ....... (given you feel you are getting a good price) and take it to Ant in Bristol to sort it out! You have established it can be done at least.

                        Yes can see you need a heater... actually it would be on my list of essentials it keeps you independant.

                        Good luck.

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                          #13
                          There is no problem fitting a diesel fired heater, it definitely can be done but if it was me I would come to an arrangement with the dealer for a further reduction and arrange the fitting myself by someone who i felt confident with.

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                            #14
                            I would be concerned if a motorhome dealer has no experience of diesel heaters, they are very common, many Hymers for example have them fitted and as I have stated before they are well known in truck circles.

                            We have never had any trouble with ours not firing up but I always make sure that the leisure battery is fully charged, in fact I have replaced ours with a higher capacity battery because we rarely use EHU

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                              #15
                              I agree with all the concerns expressed re the dealer fitting the heater - they are used to monster-motorhomes - the real biggies with multiple rooms so this RH was hidden away behind those and the even bigger caravans. They're familiar with Truma gas heaters installed in caravans and didn't even know what an Eberspacher was so I wouldn't risk them fitting it - it may also invalidate any warranties or, at best, lead to bickering between the two parties in the event of any claim.

                              I've emailed the dealer requesting that, as part of the deal, the heater is fitted by a manufacturer-appointed agent/installer to avoid any future warranty implications and to ensure it's fitted correctly (worded tactfully). This could be either via the dealer arranging it (preferred - just incase there are any practical problems arising so that I still have the opportunity to back out) or the van to be reduced by the cost of supplying and fitting it. As stated earlier, when they realise the cost could be in excess of £1,300 I can't believe they would go along with this - they think it's about £500 trade price plus a couple of hours in their workshop.... BTW The heater issue only arose because they'd advertised the RH as having 'blown air heating' and they were oblivious to the fact it didn't, and they'd accepted it on the basis that it was fitted, hence an expensive oversight.

                              I'm certain the dealer will withdraw the verbal agreement - there's nothing in writing and any contract's smallprint will have a clause allowing the contract to be rescinded in the event that work costs more than estimated. If they do go ahead then I will be a very happy customer.

                              I need to make a few more phone calls early tomorrow morning, ie to Ant for an Eberspacher fitting quote and, if the tale re the RH being delivered to the RH dealer was genuine, then I'll be too late. However, I can't be pressurised into making an expensive decision without having full information re costs before entering into any purchase agreements. I believe in striving for win-win whenever possible!

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