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    I want to change bulb for LED type

    Hi everyone

    I want to change the standard bulb for the LED type, does anyone know where I can get them please? I don't even know what these lights are called, I just call them bulkhead lights.

    "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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    Hi Jeff,
    Those bulbs you illustrate are common automotive bulbs often now replaced (or usurped) by LED versions.
    They are quite readily available from car parts shops and ebay etc.
    Note that if put into the bulb-holder 180 degrees out they will not work, though they will not be damaged. The obvious remedy is to remove it and refit it half a turn differently.

    Jim.

    PS. I have these in my reading lamps and they are rather better for reading than normal comparable incandescents because they emit a whiter light.
    Also, be sure not to buy car SIDE LAMP bulbs (5 or 6 Watt equivalent versions). They will not be bright enough. You will need 21 Watt equivalents as used in brake lights or direction indicators on cars etc.
    Last edited by Twolitre; 23-08-2016, 08:44.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Jeff Brown View Post
      Hi everyone

      I want to change the standard bulb for the LED type, does anyone know where I can get them please? I don't even know what these lights are called, I just call them bulkhead lights.

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      I first tried LED bulbs a few years ago and was very disappointed by the experience... They didn't last long and gave off that awful and distinctly unpleasant "ice white" light. That said, they have improved greatly but beware of the cheap Chinese imports often found on fleabay. The colour of the light has also improved and a warm light is now an option. I read a writeup a while ago and it seems that some of the cheaper varieties are not rated high enough to take the voltages incurred whilst charging, hence a short life expectancy. I bought my last set from a UK based marine specialist and whilst they were a tad more expensive than the ebay equivalents, they are the bees knees and come with a guarantee.
      A bad day fishing is infinitely better than a good day at work.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Twolitre View Post
        Hi Jeff,
        Those bulbs you illustrate are common automotive bulbs often now replaced (or usurped) by LED versions.
        They are quite readily available from car parts shops and ebay etc.
        Note that if put into the bulb-holder 180 degrees out they will not work, though they will not be damaged. The obvious remedy is to remove it and refit it half a turn differently.

        Jim.

        PS. I have these in my reading lamps and they are rather better for reading than normal comparable incandescents because they emit a whiter light.
        Also, be sure not to buy car SIDE LAMP bulbs (5 or 6 Watt equivalent versions). They will not be bright enough. You will need 21 Watt equivalents as used in brake lights or direction indicators on cars etc.
        Thanks Jim
        I'll take a look today, I know they run a lot cooler than the common bulb but my main aim is to reduce the amount of current they draw so my leisure battery lasts a little longer and to have more of a white light.
        "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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          #5
          Originally posted by Les Barbeux View Post
          I first tried LED bulbs a few years ago and was very disappointed by the experience... They didn't last long and gave off that awful and distinctly unpleasant "ice white" light. That said, they have improved greatly but beware of the cheap Chinese imports often found on fleabay. The colour of the light has also improved and a warm light is now an option. I read a writeup a while ago and it seems that some of the cheaper varieties are not rated high enough to take the voltages incurred whilst charging, hence a short life expectancy. I bought my last set from a UK based marine specialist and whilst they were a tad more expensive than the ebay equivalents, they are the bees knees and come with a guarantee.
          Thanks Les
          They have a new led out and it's the SMD surface mount device they are little rectangles and super bright, I have one in a torch I use and on occasions I've used it in my photography to light up a subject. they are said to have a long life span and protected by resistors as all led's should be, they are rated at 5v, so the fluctuation in voltage wont do them any good if they don't have a regulator for the voltage.
          "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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            #6
            Changed all the bulbs, including the kitchen fluerescent with LED's from Aten lighting. www.atenlighting.co.uk
            It has to be said that they're not the cheapest co' to deal with but delivery was fast and i'd read plenty on the net that their gear is quality.
            Over 90% of what we do with our Duo is wilding and they do make a huge difference in power consumption. Very happy with he results.
            Last edited by zaskar; 23-08-2016, 10:14.

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              #7
              Originally posted by zaskar View Post
              Changed all the bulbs, including the kitchen fluerescent with LED's from Aten lighting. www.atenlighting.co.uk
              It has to be said that they're not the cheapest co' to deal with but delivery was fast and i'd read plenty on the net that their gear is quality.
              Over 90% of what we do with our Duo is wilding and they do make a huge difference in power consumption. Very happy with he results.

              Ah yes!... Aten lighting... was going to recommend them but couldn't for the life of me remember the name. Now put in my "Van stuff" file in my browser bookmarks!
              A bad day fishing is infinitely better than a good day at work.

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                #8
                I have also swapped the internal lights in mt R30 for LED ones. My lights used the 10W halogen 'spotlight' type, but there is a standard replacement LED one.
                I used 2 watt 'Warm white' spotlight (30 degree) bulbs. Note that these are mainly AC/DC so it doesn't matter what way round they go. In the OP's photo, turning it won't make any difference and I assume that the centre contact is +ve and the case is -ve.

                When it comes to flourescent bulbs, these generally work at high voltage, so you can't just swap the tube for LEDs. Either you remove the inbuilt inverter or replace the entire fitting.
                Still crazy after all these beers.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Grumblewagon View Post
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                  When it comes to flourescent bulbs, these generally work at high voltage, so you can't just swap the tube for LEDs. Either you remove the inbuilt inverter or replace the entire fitting.
                  No need to remove anything except the bulb.
                  Simply connect the red and black flying leads off the self adhesive LED strip directly to the original pos/neg supply wires to the fitting
                  Everything stays in place and it still looks like the origanal fitting but contains LED's.
                  Sorry if that sounds a bit pedantic but for novices, simply ignoring the inverter sounds a lot easier than removing it.........I think.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by zaskar View Post
                    No need to remove anything except the bulb.
                    Simply connect the red and black flying leads off the self adhesive LED strip directly to the original pos/neg supply wires to the fitting
                    Everything stays in place and it still looks like the origanal fitting but contains LED's.
                    Sorry if that sounds a bit pedantic but for novices, simply ignoring the inverter sounds a lot easier than removing it.........I think.
                    Agreed... as per instructions from http://www.atenlighting.co.uk/led-fl...0-hb-60pm.html
                    A bad day fishing is infinitely better than a good day at work.

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                      #11
                      Just for curiosity I purchased one of these 12v 48 LED strip lights from fleabay, they come with an assortment of attachments for different applications. They were put on a slow boat from China and I think the Captain took a wrong turning several times because it took a very long time to get here from Shanghai.

                      I wanted to try it in the courtesy light because those festoon bulbs don't give out a lot of light when your working say like on the car radio, they also consume a lot of power over the hours. I installed it temporary to try it out and boy the light it gives out against the festoon bulb is non comparison. It did light the whole cab area up very good and they say it has a life span of around 50,000hrs. Double sided sticky tape to fix it more permanent if you wish and a grand total of £1.10p so if it wasn't to my satisfaction it wasn't a great loss. I'm going to purchase a few more for the spares box or until I find other uses for them.

                      While working on chitty over the months I had a real bad habit of leaving one or the other doors open for hours on end and this often led to a flat battery because chitty's battery wasn't the best and it was years old, I installed the new LED a couple of weeks ago and still left the doors open while working on her but happily it didn't flatten the battery to the extent I couldn't start chitty without jump leads. Chitty will be getting a new battery very soon.

                      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2722033932...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
                      Last edited by Jeff Brown; 28-12-2016, 14:02. Reason: Helps to put the link
                      "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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                        #12
                        The latest things are very similar to what you have there but are known as COB LEDs (Chip On Board) I've ordered some from China and they come with all the adapters for different bulb holders same as yours, and are about £1.60 each. I'll get the link..........

                        Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152101883339
                        Last edited by Fletch; 28-12-2016, 14:51.

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                          #13
                          I am curious about the mention of leaving the inverter in situ in a strip light with LEds. Surely if the inverter is still "live" it ridicules fitting LEDs to save power?
                          Pre-LEDs in my Romini I had to be very careful with light usage or use EHU. Since LEDs were fitted everywhere I have never needed EHU. I fact I often wonder why carry the EHU cable, but then I also carry a small battery charger which I have never needed either!
                          Jim.
                          Keeping people waiting is stealing a part of their lives.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                            The latest things are very similar to what you have there but are known as COB LEDs (Chip On Board) I've ordered some from China and they come with all the adapters for different bulb holders same as yours, and are about £1.60 each. I'll get the link..........

                            Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152101883339
                            Looks like the same sort of thing Fletch but covered in a resin base and will no doubt also be waterproof. Good find though.
                            "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Twolitre View Post
                              I am curious about the mention of leaving the inverter in situ in a strip light with LEds. Surely if the inverter is still "live" it ridicules fitting LEDs to save power?
                              Pre-LEDs in my Romini I had to be very careful with light usage or use EHU. Since LEDs were fitted everywhere I have never needed EHU. I fact I often wonder why carry the EHU cable, but then I also carry a small battery charger which I have never needed either!
                              Jim.
                              Why on earth would you need to leave the inverter connected? the inverter would be connected to the 12v supply so remove it and connect the 12v supply directly to the LED's.
                              "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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