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    Head Lamp Bulbs

    I know a lot of people have changed over to LED bulbs inside their units but I have changed over most of the standard bulbs outside on my Pick-up and they seem to give a good bright light, but up until now i haven't thought about changing the Headlamp and Spot Lamp /Driving Lamp Bulbs.

    but i have just seen these

    They are so cheep its worth giving them a go but has anyone tried them yet.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3109403333...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3718482717...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    #2
    No but id be interested to find out - do they tend to glare the other driver a bit more?
    Id love to do it on my volvo as the headlight keeps going as moisture keeps getting into once unit. As my volvo has always on lights they always seem to be going. When i was buying my volvo i didnt realise it was a ford focus in drag! Still the seats are comfy.
    Halogen bulbs are hateful things in my opinion- expensive, blow all the time, and use loads of power.
    They are bright mind!

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      #3
      Re Headlamps

      As an MOT tester, I would advise checking that they are E marked at least, even then the position of the filament in a normal bulb relative to the focal centre of the reflector is crucial to the (legal) beam pattern. Thats why some cheap bulbs produce beams with light and dark patches instead of an even spread. The leds on these are in effect on the outside of the glass envelope not in the middle where a filament would be, so i'd be surprised if they produced the correct beam pattern. Ditto with so called HID "conversions". There is not such thing. Vehicles with HID must be fitted with both self levelling and a headlamp wash/wipe system. I.e built in at manufacture! They can pass the mot with an advise without these features so long as the beam pattern is correct, which it usually isn't for the focussing reason mentioned. If you want brighter lights then use uprated xenon gas halogens from Lucas, Osram, Philips, or Ring (no-one else). These are the same wattage as normal H4s but burn hotter and whiter but only last 3/4 as long, roughly. Also you will notice that none of these major respected manufacturers offer LED or HID "conversions" because of the problems with focus/pattern and legality. Its just our friends the Chinese foisting more of their c"£% on the gullible via ebay i'm afraid. Also there are lots of people branding normal halogens as Xenon and charging extra for a shoddily made bulb with tinted glass which reduces the output further! True xenons can be totally clear or have a narrow band of blue tint at the end for the fake HID look. Expect to pay £8 to 10 per bulb for decent xenons. Hope this helps

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        #4
        Thanks Pog,
        You have written exactly what I was wanting to but could not put into words.
        I remember vaguely that the most perfect reflector of light is an eliptical reflector with the light source a PINPOINT exactly on the focal point of the reflector. And though some correction can be effected by block pattern lenses the light-source position is the most critical. Those LEDs have SEVERAL light points which surely are almost impossible to be positioned to give a proper focussed beam of light.
        I think LEDs are marvellous for internal lighting with little power drain inside a motorhome or caravan and for marker lighting and brake lights etc.. But as a headlamp source????????????????????????????
        Jim.
        Keeping people waiting is stealing a part of their lives.

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          #5
          Could be ok on an older car or van, but I know from reading about it that a modern car's electronics have to be re-programmed because of the extra draw or something.

          I have changed my headlight bulbs for Osram white/blue? light bulbs, they are definitely better than the originals, which were like candles on a dark night. Shame on you, Skoda!

          Have heard that the Osram nightbreakers are the best. So when these bulbs give out, I will be getting a pair of those.

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            #6
            I was thinking of upgrading my headlights, I went on the net to see if this was not only possible but legal, I picked up a few tips along the way and went onto fleabay to price the bulbs and I'm one for reading the small print before I click buy and on a couple of the sellers sites I didn't just look at the price and the description but continued reading only to find in the small print, for off road use only these bulbs do not conform to MOT standards and are illegal for road use. So I'm taking no chances and sticking to my old bulbs unless someone can come along with a link to bulbs that are better/brighter and MOT compliant with no advisories.
            "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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              #7
              Originally posted by Jeff Brown View Post
              ... these bulbs do not conform to MOT standards and are illegal for road use. So I'm taking no chances and sticking to my old bulbs unless someone can come along with a link to bulbs that are better/brighter and MOT compliant with no advisories.
              Just had my car MOT'd and it passed with flying colours, no advisories or anything... so I know my headlight bulbs are ok anyway! So the Osram ones are legal!
              Last edited by jayjay; 01-02-2017, 17:02.

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                #8
                My original headlight bubs were appalling.

                It was dangerous going out at night with the old 40/45W P45t headlight bulb.

                I bought a couple of adapters and fitted halogen H4's.

                It hasn't been for an MOT since yet, but the beam pattern is good, it dips to the left, and more importantly, it actually lights the road in front of me.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Traveller26 View Post
                  My original headlight bubs were appalling.

                  It was dangerous going out at night with the old 40/45W P45t headlight bulb.

                  I bought a couple of adapters and fitted halogen H4's.

                  It hasn't been for an MOT since yet, but the beam pattern is good, it dips to the left, and more importantly, it actually lights the road in front of me.
                  That's what's fitted to my camper the halogen H4's but looking online I had trouble finding the correct fitting as in the bulbs amply available have 3 lugs on the rim but on my C15 it doesn't have any lugs at all so trying for a led conversion may be impossible without changing the whole headlight unit. past it's mot with the halogens fitted and no advisories.
                  "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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                    #10
                    I bought a couple of adapter rings to the three prong H4

                    http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/goffybulbs.htm

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                      #11
                      Thanks Traveller I've just saved the link for the future. very much appreciated
                      "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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                        #12
                        Thanks Pog

                        I will give the headlamp bulbs a miss, but will still look at indicator and side repeaters, Rear fog light and reversing lights all as there are behind obscure lenses and i cant see those being affected by a light pattern

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                          #13
                          I stuck day time running lights on mine and when I switch on my headlights they dim to half power at least they can see me coming now lol
                          "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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                            #14
                            Old 410 type 45/40 bulbs

                            Ok, Some older vehicles have a round based bulbous (!) bulb whose Lucas no was 410, it has a small raised pip which aligns with a notch in the headlight to ensure alignment. These bulbs are non halogen 45/40w. There is a halogen version of this bulb still made which has the same envelope as the H4 and is just as bright at 60/55w it is a proper conversion made back in the 70's and is correctly focused and was sometimes called an HB12, there is no need for any sort of adaptor , which would put the focus out more than likely410 halogen.jpg. However I don't know of any xenon version but your lights will at least be 1980's rather than 1960's!
                            If you've got a motor factors like Express factors, Euro car parts or even Halfords (But their staff are thicker than a quick fit fitter!) near you then go there for your bulbs rather than fleabay, as there may well be a choice, and Halfords excepted there should be someone there old enough to give sound advice without recourse to a phone app !
                            Bit of a gripe really but i've noticed a depressing tendency amongst members to Google a moron rather than actually go to a local specialist, its alright to look at pics, but its best to buy from somewhere you can take it back to if it doesn't do the job.

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                              #15
                              The trouble with halfrauds you hit the nail on the head, the majority of their staff are far to young and have no idea, they sold my neighbour 2 headlight bulbs for her Audi and came around to me to fit them for her, on checking they sold her completely the wrong bulbs and if the took the time to reference their own books they have for bulbs/wipers/batteries etc. they would have plainly seen they were not the correct bulbs for her model Audi and at a cost of £28 for 2 in a blister pack and they wanted another £8 to fit one bulb that took me less than 3 minutes to fit once they gave her the correct bulbs.

                              I do not blame the staff I blame the company for employing cheaper labour to learn on the job but why is it that every time I go in there the person who is supposed to be doing the training is never there.
                              "Take nothing but pictures. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time"

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