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    Need bigger springs

    Does any one no how i can lift the back of my c15 champ Romahome 2002year. think it needs bigger springs but cant seem to get hold of them ,could do with some help

    #2
    I have a c15 romahome and it has been a pain since I was ript-off by stowmarket caravans. the rear suspension bearing and bushes has seized so after i got a qoute from a citroen spacialist for £700 I decided to replace the whole axle and it cost me £78.

    My new axle works but it's low at the back like yours. So I either make something myself quite unique or I get onto ebay and buy some spring assisters. They are just a rubber item that wraps around some of the spring and transfer some of the load onto a lesser amount of spring coils resulting in less travel.

    Go to the ask Ant section or even phone him but he'll probably say get some assiters from graystone engieering.

    When I do my mod I'm sure it'll be the ultimate mod

    wash this space

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      #3
      The rubber inserts normally fitted to coil springs as assisters would be very difficult if not impossible on a C15 because of the spring being partly enclosed by the trailing arm.

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        #4
        Your right Peter, I dont see how they can be put in place as the spring is enshrouded by a steel cover and not easily assesable, unless you have the mother of all spring compressers from Citroen. May be worth checking for second hand 765 axles and just swapping the whole lot over.
        It's a shame these problems were not forecast by Island plastics/romahome.

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          #5
          If it is a genuine 2002 then Romahome will have built it on the heavier chassis as this must be one of the last C15 based Romahomes

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            #6
            springs

            Originally posted by ecobezhig View Post
            I have a c15 romahome and it has been a pain since I was ript-off by stowmarket caravans. the rear suspension bearing and bushes has seized so after i got a qoute from a citroen spacialist for £700 I decided to replace the whole axle and it cost me £78.

            My new axle works but it's low at the back like yours. So I either make something myself quite unique or I get onto ebay and buy some spring assisters. They are just a rubber item that wraps around some of the spring and transfer some of the load onto a lesser amount of spring coils resulting in less travel.

            Go to the ask Ant section or even phone him but he'll probably say get some assiters from graystone engieering.

            When I do my mod I'm sure it'll be the ultimate mod

            wash this space
            Thanks, have ordered some heavy duty springs from greystones cost £111 .00
            gave them the details of the van will take 4 to 5 weeks to come hope they work.

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              #7
              Originally posted by peterholden View Post
              If it is a genuine 2002 then Romahome will have built it on the heavier chassis as this must be one of the last C15 based Romahomes
              How do i no if its genuine

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                #8
                Originally posted by cheshire4 View Post
                How do i no if its genuine
                If your van is the later 765 the chassis number will have "PP" in it rather than "PB" for 600 chassis
                Derek Our Berlingo camping car

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                  #9
                  Have you thought how your gonna swap them over, your HD springs? You'll need a special spring compresser from Citroen or a dealers high labour fees.

                  If it was me and I had bought the new spring then i would do this.

                  Take off the rear axle altogether. first take off exhaust, 2 handbrake cables, 1 brake feed to the rear proportion valve. Get in the back and remove all seat covers remove left hand black fuel pipes cover. get a small hammer and smash out the filler over the plastic covers that go over the 6 axle mount nuts. get vacum cleaner and suck it all out of the holes.

                  You'll need a long 16mm socket and being very careful to loosen the nuts first with a little oil on the studs. Anyway once you're this far the rest is staright forward with a little stress.

                  Once the axle is out I would make a hydraulic spring compresser from a few spare rams and it needs to be capable of squeezing to about 1000 kgs. undo the nut on the end of the shock and release the ram slowly. Clean it all then reasemble it with the new springs and refitting the nut and the plastic cover.

                  Jack up axle into holes being patient to locate the 72 kilo lump into position.

                  Getting tired now, must go to bed.

                  good luck
                  Last edited by RRH; 13-05-2010, 22:55.

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                    #10
                    The other thing is that the ones that I have seen that have been early bodies on later vans is that part of the van side is retained as in the real pre 1990 Romahomes and there is a low bulkhead that prevents you from getting through from the cab

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                      #11
                      Hi Cheshire4.
                      Don't worry about the fitting of the Grayston springs, they are assistors so you don't need to disturb any of the original Citroen bits, they just fit onto the trailing arm of the suspension. You only have to undo and discard the bump stop plate ( 13mm nut) no other tools are required.
                      Ant

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                        #12
                        "I can't believe it" my idea has been stolen. look at this.
                        http://www.springassisters.co.uk/31B02%20INST.pdf

                        This just what I was gonna do but with motor cycle springs.

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                          #13
                          Springs sorted

                          Got the springs i got from Greystones put on and they work lifted the back up and i am pleased with it, but cost £168 at citron garage thanks to you all for your help

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                            #14
                            I feel like an old celebrity now Iv'e dug up this old thread but I don't know how to find the pics I put up before. Peter, here are some pics I hope of the Yamaha 1100 spring assistors I made.

                            http://img593.imageshack.us/i/assisstoronbench.jpg/

                            <script src='http://img163.imageshack.us/shareable/?i=springassistor.jpg&p=tl' type='text/javascript'></script><noscript></noscript>

                            I don't have a clue when it comes to image uploading but hopefully you see 2 pics.

                            pic 1 is the Bike spring from a yamaha XS 1100 I paid £1 for 2. next to it is a steel cup that bolts onto the swing arm in place of the ally bump stop.

                            Pic 2 shows it in place. The end result is about 3 - 4 inches higher. a little more noisy at the back due to the chassis taking a more direct noise path to the ground. In 1 year I have had no probs with the rubber stop wearing on the spring.

                            Hope this helps some people but if C15 Romahome owners need advice on assistors I would recommend Ant first.
                            Last edited by RRH; 11-02-2011, 14:50.

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                              #15
                              C15 spring assisters

                              My 1993 c15 was looking quite sad with a definate slope rearwards. Contacted graysons but I somewhat deterred by thier high price. Thought about sourcing the components and making up myself but that's only part of the job as there is a bit of r&d involved and the usual trial and error ie laying under the vehicle at this time of the year! so I decided to put up with it.
                              Fortunately for me , I saw on this forum that Member Rio was feeling well enough make up a few of his assisters which i duly purchased and fitted in minutes.these are half the price of the Grayson equivalent.

                              Just to say that my van now sits level and handles perfectly in every way, rear braking seems unaffected. Rios advice, comms and prompt service are excellent and would highly reccomend this cost effective solution who has a tired c15. Thanks rio, another job done!

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